Prior to leaving Australia
I was surfing the net and came across a couple of articles where
people had visited foreign prisoners in South America prisons. With a
bit of homework I came across an article in the Huaraz Telegraph
about Rex Broekman the editor visiting Luis Cornelius, a South
African convicted of attempting to transport 17 kgs of Cocaine out of
Peru. Immediately I thought I had to contact Rex and see what he
could do for me. I've been in Long Bay Prison, New South Wales for
work many years ago and seen the conditions, so I wanted to see first
hand what is a Peruvian Goal really like. And I wanted to have the
chance to interview Luis for not 10 minutes as you see on
documentaries but for 1 and ½ hours. I wanted to know what made this
person 'tick'.
After many emails between
Rex and I and the fact that Luis was prepared to see me, the
time and date was set. I informed Rex that I would be arriving with
the Bike Dreams Tour on the afternoon of the 24th August
2014 and I would be ready to head off by 2.30pm. To cut the story
short, I rode the morning, made the hotel and shortly before 2.30pm I
heard a knock on my room. It was a fresh faced 32 year old man, named
Rex Broekman. I was surprised to see such a young man and thought
that he would be much older.
So after stuffing around
and finally getting my passport out of the fire engine, the taxi was
taking us to Huaraz Prison close to town. We pulled up out the front of the prison and I was feeling rather anxious and not knowing what to expect.
After all no one other than Barry knew what I was up to. I know my
family would have been a little concerned knowing what I was going to
do in Peru.
The first step was
registration, a couple of stamps and then a body search. I didn't
have to strip, just a pat down. The guards are not thorough at all.
They never asked me to take my boots off, just a quick pat and I was
on the other side of hell. Rex and I walked up a couple of steps and
down below was Luis Cornelius. A thin 54 year old man, with clothes
that looked old and warn. It was obvious, he was not healthy and
looked a lot older than 54. We walked down the steps to be greeted by
Luis and took up a seat in the main visiting area. There was a guard
and about 5 other prisoners doing their own thing. I think Luis has
some pull in this prison.
Now for the interview. No
electronic devices are allowed in the prison, only pen and paper.
Q. Where were you born
Luis?
A. I was born in
Johannesburg South Africa.
Q. Why did you come to
Peru?
A. Simple, I needed some
money and thought drugs was an easy chance to get some.
Q. How much had you agreed
to transport out of the country?
A. It was agreed upon back
in South Africa that I would transport 3 kgs.
Q. How much did the case
end up weighing at the airport?
A. 17 kgs roughly.
Q. You had to know the
difference between 17 and 3 kgs, anyone would know that. Don't you
agree?
A. Honestly Terry I never
touched the bag (suitcase) at any time.
Q. Where were you living
in Peru?
A. I was living in an
apartment in mini Flores.
Q. So how did this all go
down?
A. I left the apartment in
a white taxi and ½ way I changed into another taxi and this is
when I received the bag and shown the 3kgs. I was ready to go ahead
and fly to Amsterdam and then onto Johannesburg.
Q. What happened at the
airport?
A. The person who was with
me called the porter to carry the bag, I still hadn't touched the bag
at this stage. We went over the plastic wrap and wrapped the bag. The
porter did all this for me as I was flying first class. (on this
point I don't think I've ever read a drug mule going first class).
Q. What airport were you
flying out of?
A. Jourge Chavez airport.
I was told to go to gate 7 to pay my taxes and then I could just go
and check in and I was on my way.
Q. Did you pay the airport
tax?
A. Just as I was ready to
walk off I was tapped on the shoulder to told to go with the officer.
I thought then I was 'F.....'.
Q. Where were you taken?
A. I was taken to a police
room and told to open the bag. This is the first time I touched the
bag and then realised how heavy it was. I was screwed.
Q. Did you open the bag?
A. No, they got a drill
and tried to drill into the bag and broke 2 drills. Then got a
grinder and cut the bag in half. When they did this 2 bags fell out
of the bag and rolled onto the table. It's then I realised that I was either set up or already a target. I was gone.
Q. How much were you
promised if you got the drugs back to Johannesburg?
A. I was promised 30,000
rand. The street value of the drugs broken down into 1 gram bags on
the street would be several millions of rand.
Q. What did you say when
you saw all the drugs?
A. F...., that don't look
like 3 kgs.
Q. What did the police do
next?
A. They got out the camera
and video and everyone turned up, it was a big deal a Gringo getting
busted.
Q. Where did you take you
next?
A. They took me to the
Denando Police Station for 15 days. In the 2 weeks they took me out
15 times to try and find the suppliers. I never gave them up, if I
did, I would be signing my death warrant and I knew it wouldn't help
my sentence. Not in this country.
Q. Do you have any other
big suppliers in the prison?
A. Yes, Antonio Ruiz. He
works in the laundry and got caught trying to transport 1.2 tonne of
Cocaine out of the country. He got 12 years.
Q. Where was the first
prison you were sent?
A. I was sent to Sarita
Colonia where a I spent 4 years and 8 months. It's there I contracted
HIV through needles in the pharmacy. Terry, you won't believe what
shit they do in that prison. One of the prisoners would extract his
own blood and then they would put it into medicine in the pharmacy. I
was sick and given a bad dose, now I live with HIV for the rest of my
life. The Peruvian Government owe me for this. I should take legal
action against them.
Q. Why were you taken
medication with needles in prison?
A. I spent 4 years in
traction from the age 7-11 due to brittle bones. I was given all
sorts of drugs to try and fix the problem so now I have to have a
needle to help me get through. It's through the pharmacy at Sarita Colonia that caused me this problem.
It was just then I noticed
a phone on the wall beside me.
Q. This phone Luis can
anyone us it?
A. Yes, prisoners can use
it but the guards make the call and then you can talk.
Q. Can you order anything
from outside and get it brought to you in prison?
A. Sure, no problem. We
can ring prostitutes and 20 minutes later I can take a lady to my
room. It happens all the time.
It was then I met the new
head of the prison, Dr Ciro Trejo Zuloagoa. It was just a shake of
hands and no more.
Q. So where were you
charged for this offence?
A. I was charged at the
airport by a prosecutor who came and some police.
Q. How long was it being
apprehended that you appeared in court?
A. 20 months, that is
f..... bullshit.
Q. Where was the court?
A. It's bullshit Terry, it
was in the same prison I was being held. I appeared in front of 3
magistrates and 2 prosecutors, it was a big deal to them.
Q. Was a plea bargain
offered to you?
A. Yes it was, but I was
told by my lawyer not to accept as these Magistrates and Prosecutors
were corrupt and you would receive 15 years at least.
Q. What did you end up
getting?
A. I got 12 years with no
parole. I appealed the sentence, right there and then. About 2
minutes my appeal was heard by the same Magistrates and Prosecutors.
I got the same penalty, how shit is this system.
Q. Did you lodge an appeal
against the severity of the sentence to the Supreme Court?
A. I did and was told it
would be dealt with in 10 days. I ended up going back to court 5
months later and lost the appeal.
Q. What happened next?
A. The Supreme Court
called me back and ruled that my sentence could have beneifits which
would mean I could be out in 4-6 years.
Q. Well that's not too bad
considering how much gear you were carrying, don't you think?
A. I agree with you, but
when I got transferred to this prison I couldn't take my papers with
me and now I can't find the paper that says I have benefits and now I
have to stay the 12 years.
Q. What about your wife
Luis, where is she?
A. My common law wife who
I met 8 years ago in South Africa got caught with a false passport
and drug trafficking in Bolivia. I think she might have been trying
to help me.
Q. What were the
circumstances of you being transferred to Huaraz Prison?
A. I was fighting in
prison on 3 or more occasions. I suffered head injuries. One day they
came to me and said you're going. It was unannounced.
Q. What did the South
African embassy do for you?
A. The prison never
contacted the embassy prior to my transfer which they suppose to do.
These people don't give a shit about a gringo, they do what they
want, they can beat you and treat you like shit and nothing happens
to the officers.
Q. What injuries did you
suffer in the assault?
A. I spent the first 6
weeks in the prison hospital recovering from my injuries. My weight
dropped to 53 kgs and I received nearly 120 litres of a fluid and was
on a drip all this time. I was very sick Terry.
Q. When is your release
date Luis?
A. My release is the 14th
February 2017. I've put in applications to have my term carried out
in Johannesburg, but no one is interested.
Q. Have the South African
embassy done anything for you since your transfer to Huaraz Prison?
A. No. I spent 34 months
in this shit hole before I saw an embassy official, then it was 14
months later and the last time was about 13 months ago.
Q. Since you were involved
in drug trafficking, I suppose you had a drug habit before you left
Johannesburg?
A. No I didn't. I know you
might find it hard to believe but I was doing this money and no other
purpose. Once I found out my wife was in Bolivia I lost it, I
developed an addiction for smoking crack which lasted for 3 years and
7 months. This was whilst I was serving my sentence in Sarita
Colonia.
Q. When did you stop
smoking crack?
A. It was the 6th
January 2012. I had to stop or I would have died.
Q. Is it hard to get drugs
in either prison?
A. The technico's (prison
guards) are the suppliers of all the drugs in this place. They can
get you anything.
Q. What about cameras in
the gaol?
A. You are joking, no
cameras anywhere, people can do whatever they like in this place and
get away with it.
Q. So what section of the
prison do you live in?
A. I'm currently living in
the hospital because of my poor health. There's 5 of us and 1 female
but she's in an another section.
Q. Do you have any
children back home?
A. I have 2 children, 38
and 37, I've never heard from them.
Q. How do you get along
with the staff of the prison?
A. Because I'm a gringo
many resent me and treat me like shit. If you were American it would
be worse.
Q. What are the major
crimes people are doing time for in this prison?
A. 60% Drugs, 20% murder
and 20% stealing.
Q. So how old are you now
Luis?
A. 54 years old Terry and
not going well.
Q. If you ever been
outside the walls of the prison since you arrived in Huaraz?
A. Yes, 3 times. They walk
me outside, call me a taxi and I go to the hospital with 2 staff
members.
Q. Have you ever been
beaten by the guards here?
A. Many times they hit me.
Once I was beaten so bad the technico's were transferred. I had a
tube out of my stomach which I had to carry around for 9 days.
Q. How's the food?
A. the food is pathetic, I
wouldn't feed it to a dog, it's shit.
Q. Give us an example of
what they would feed you?
A. Rice, potato and the
skin or fat from pork.
Q. Who is the longest
serving prisoner in this prison Luis?
A. There is one guy who's
in for having sex with his 2 children. He got life and will never
walk outside these walls again. He is the most hated man in the
prison. He basically lives on his own or they will kill him.
Q. So in a typical day
what time do you get up and go to bed?
A. Roll call is at 8am and
5pm. Usually I go to roll call at 8am and then go back to sleep till
11am, I have nothing to do.
Q. So what's going to
happen to Luis when he's released in 2017?
A. I'm going to be
deported and then I'm going to write a book about my experience. I've
already started writing notes so I can do when I get home.
After our conversation
Luis took Rex and myself for a walk of the prison. We visited the
minimum and medium security part of the prison and looked through the
bars of maximum security prisoners playing ball in the courtyard.
When you enter the corridor that leads to these sections, it's then
that you realise how vulnerable you are. Prisoners come up to you and
offer you food, little carvings, drinks, but Rex and I ignore then
and Luis tells them to F.... off. He's not scared to tell the other
prisoners where to go. Luis bought us both a drink from a prisoner
who has his own shop in the prison and we then made a hasty retreat
to check out the prison hospital where Luis lives.
After checking out the
prison and going back to the main courtyard, I was glad to be out of
that shit hole. I got to see the dorm section where 12 prisoners
could live in bunks in a room smaller than my computer room at home.
It was now getting close
to 5pm and it was time to say farewell and leave Luis behind. I did
wish Luis good health and hopefully he does get to write a book about
his experiences. Rex and I left the prison and headed back to town. I
am extremely grateful to Rex for organising the visit and to Luis for
allowing me into his life for such a short period of time. Yes Luis
is a convicted criminal and never hides from this fact. Of course he
wishes he never did it, or perhaps wishes he never got caught.
To those who think of
being involved in trafficking drugs, whether it be in South America,
Thailand, Bali or any other country around the world, personally you
deserve the full weight of that countries laws to come down on you.
You deserve to be treated according to their laws and not those of the
country you use to live in. To think anything different is not logical.
So there you have it, an
afternoon in the Huaraz Prison. An experience I will never forget.
Yes, there were many other questions I would have liked to ask Luis,
but time was against me.
Now for today.
I had a good sleep, got my
clothes washed, went shopping for a new bag, ate some food, rested,
eat some more food, clean the bike and go to sleep. Tomorrow we start
another 4 days of punishment in the higher mountains of the Andes.
I had to buy a bag to replace the one with the broken zipper. Old mama was hard to bargain with, but I did get her down a couple of coings.
Whilst in the markets we came across the meat section. Anyone for non refrigerated guinea pig.
The ladies above are selling their produce sitting on the pavement of Huaraz. They do not like to have their photo's taken.
Whilst in the markets we came across the meat section. Anyone for non refrigerated guinea pig.
The ladies above are selling their produce sitting on the pavement of Huaraz. They do not like to have their photo's taken.
And more non refrigerated poultry for dinner. Not for me.
We will be bush camping for 3 nights, so no internet. I will post the next update in 3 days. More dirt, more rock and the temperature is increasing.
Until tomorrow, safe riding.
Wow...great interview! Funny but how can you really feel sorry for the guy? I mean who in their right mind would even think of trying to smuggle drugs out of a foreign country? I agree with you, anyone who does it and gets caught, deserves everything he gets from the foreign govt. No sympathy at all.
ReplyDeleteSo, you haven' tried the Cuy (guinea pig)?? It's really not that bad. I mean, I had you convinced to eat the rat until you discovered it wasn't chicken! Ha!
Stay safe and stay out of trouble.
Len